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Rain, binders, great sales, police, make for an interesting Orland show

9/23/2019

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Sunday, September 22, 2019, Orland Park Civic Center, Orland Park, IL

You would think that after years of setting up at card shows, I would have settled into a routine by now. No such luck. I have found that there is nothing routine about setting up at a card show. Each show is unique.

Take, for example, the August Orland show where I had a harrowing drive to the show in the morning. I arrived at the Civic Center in the midst of a torrential downpour. I decided to forego bringing in any display cases because I have nothing to protect them with from the rain. By binders are in plastic bins and safe from rain. So I just brought in some binders and had a monster show, even though I was soaked to the gills the entire day.

Before the September show, I had planned to just bring display cases and no binders. Well, the weather app on my phone was showing rain all weekend. Still feeling traumatized by the crazy storms from last month, I decided to bring just binders again and was smart enough to bring my raincoat this time.

I really wanted to bring out the display cases. I have a growing inventory of star cards and a nice selection of pre-War cards. As I was telling this to Will, he basically told me not to worry about it because with my binders, I'm a set-builders dream. Thanks Will, you gave me a new appreciation for the binders. I had been pondering on ways to get out of the binder business lately because it is a pain in the rear end. I did not realize that there are a lot of guys that actually appreciate my efforts with those binders. I just have to figure out how to reload them faster, which is a problem I have been battling for the last 20 years! Oh well, c'est la vie.

Once again, I had a really nice show. I am starting to think that I should not bother with my showcases for the Orland show ever again. As for the binders, I was thankful that my main wipe-out artist did not attend the show. Quite a few guys found quite a few cards.

A regular customer kicked things off with a nice group of 1973 Topps baseball. Another regular bought some early Bowman baseball. Bill began work on a 1969 Topps set by pulling a nice pile from my binder. A nice lady, clad in White Sox gear, found some 1977 Topps baseball. She said she is getting close to completing the set.

It was nice to see Joel after a two-month absence. Joel found some 1975s for his Cubs and Sox sets. Rick purchased some 1961 Golden Press and a bunch of Post cereal cards from the early 1960's. Are there any Post cereal or Jello experts out there? I was contacted by a collector from California who informed me that 1962 Jello cards were only issued in Illinois and Wisconsin. I have some knowledge about 1961 Jellos thanks to my old friend Chuck Thomas but the '62's escape me. I am not sure what they look like. If anybody has any '62 Jellos for sale, please let me know and I'll pass on the info to the California collector.

Back to my sales, Paul P. purchased some 1968 and 1969 Topps baseball while Paul F. purchased a small group of which I can't seem to remember. Will and Joe brought me some much needed coffee. Will also purchased a nice stack of 1967 Topps baseball and 1974-75 Topps hockey.

I may have obtained a great new customer. A young guy, maybe high school age, and his mother purchased a large pile of 1969-70 Topps basketball last month. This month, they purchased my 1970 Topps football set. Another new customer purchased piles of 1955 and 1956 Topps baseball. Between these new customers, my day was made.

A big thank you to Brian for sending over a collector of 1953 Topps baseball, who purchased a real nice grouping. A Baltimore Orioles fan purchased my Boog Powell and Jackie Brandt autographs along with a 1976 Orioles media guide. In 1980, True Value Hardware put out a little booklet with biographies of sports stars. I grabbed a pile from my local True Value back then. Every once in a while, I put some out and had one out at the Orland show which sold.

My old buddy Larry from Plainfield brought me a pile of cards. There was some old hockey in there which I absolutely love. I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, hockey cards from pre-1968 are very difficult to find. I buy any hockey that shows up from pre-1968. I actually had a customer at this show stop by who was building the 1964-65 Topps set, of which I have none -- they are so difficult to find! Larry found some 1961 Topps football cards and we made a cash and trade deal.

It was a good thing that my sales were excellent at this show because I quickly turned around and spent the money. I bought a large grouping of 1965 Topps baseball high numbers. I bought two binders of cards featuring 1961, 1962 and 1963 Topps baseball cards. Then a guy showed up with a stack of old football cards. The key cards in the stack were a 1964 Philadelphia Jim Brown and a 1968 Topps Joe Namath. Unfortunately, after I purchased the cards, I observed a crease on the Brown which I didn't see when I was first looking over the cards. With that crease, I probably overpaid for the cards. Oh, well, it happens. Overall, I was pretty happy with my purchases.

I know quite a few people read this blog because nobody brought me any cards from the 1970's. Thank you! Bring me that old stuff!!!

Then there was a little excitement at the show, which is usually mellow. I observed a dealer from Michigan across the room shouting at what appeared to be a customer. They were going at it for a while. I thought it might come to blows but eventually the customer left. I don't have all the details and everything I know is second hand but this is what folks are saying: apparently the Michigan dealer bought two binders of cards from a guy with some mental disabilities. The customer who was shouting at the dealer may have been the disabled guy's dad. He reportedly accused the dealer of taking advantage of the disabled guy and underpaying him for the cards. I was told the dealer refused to return the binders so the dad or relative took the binders off of the dealer's table and fled.

I saw Rich, the show's promoter over there apparently trying to make peace before the dad fled with the binders. The police were called and they interviewed  the dealer. In the 20 years of doing this show, I have never seen the police enter the room. The event made for an interesting day.

So, I am not totally sure if the dealer actually took advantage of the disabled guy. I am going to wait to pass judgment until I obtain more facts. Though, I am left wondering why didn't he just ask the dad for his money back and return the binders?

I offer refunds and take back my cards when customers want to make a return. Though, I think some folks take advantage of my return policy, I won't name names. But, if I was in the position of that dealer, I certainly would not engage in a shouting match and would have returned the binders upon receipt of my money. So, I have a lot of questions. Did the dealer offer to return the binders in exchange for the purchase price? Did he refuse to return the binders? I am not really sure what happened. It looked kind of ugly. The dad was a big guy and had a foot on the dealer. We were talking at my table as to who would win if it came to blows. We were all in agreement that the dad would have crushed the dealer. 

I suspect I will learn more about this affair as time goes on. Though, it made for a little excitement on the day.

I have the next weekend off, no shows. I will return with my show at the Salvation Army Community Center, 8853 S. Howell, in Oak Creek, WI, on Saturday, October 5, 2019. I have commitments from 26 dealers and expect more to sign up in the next few weeks. This should be another great show. I purchased some wax at the Orland show to giveaway at my show. I hope to see you there!!
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Don't Bring Me Cards From the 1970's

9/16/2019

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September 15, 2019, Gonzaga Hall, Milwaukee/West Allis, WI

So I first started selling cards in the late 1970's at a flea market at the long defunct Twin Drive-In Movie Theater in Wheeling, Illinois. My routine to prepare for shows is much the same today as it was back then when I was getting ready for the flea market. Before every show, I purchase a boatload of cards so I can have new inventory on my tables. I learned long ago that in order to have consistent sales, I must have new items on my tables.

While my sales are consistent, I may have overbought and am currently overbuying. I now have too many cards from the 1970's. I don't need any more. It will take me years to sell the ones in my possession, especially from 1976 to 1979, where I must have 10,000-plus cards from each year.

I had a couple guys offer me cards from the 1970's at this past Gonzaga show. I instinctively turned them down. I am suffocating under the weight of my 1970's inventory. One seller offered me four or five binders filled with 1978 and 1979 Topps baseball. I probably have 20,000 cards from 1979 Topps currently in my possession and at least 10,000 1978's if not more. 

I know if I purchase any more '78's or '79's, they will just sit and take up space. I am finally at the point where I just have to say no. It did not matter that the seller at Gonzaga offered me the cards at a very good price. I just have too many of them and can not take on any more. The seller seemed flabbergasted when I refused the deal. Maybe I need to show the photo above whenever anyone offers up cards from those years. Please, please, don't bring me any cards from the 1970's.

At the end of the show, a guy came in with a binder of about 350 baseball cards from 1968 to 1972. I probably have 4,000 1968's, I must have 5,000 1969's, probably 7,000 1970's and another 7,000 1971's and 10,000 or so 1972's. Unlike '78's and '79's, I will still buy these years but only if they are dirt cheap and the groupings have stars and high numbers. This particular seller was awfully high on his price, his group had minor stars, not many, and NO high numbers. 

He wanted $300 for the binder. You could probably go through the binders on my tables and pull cards and replicate this guy's binder and I would charge you around $90, not $300. There were '68 and '71 Carews in this guy's binder so I offered $100 which I thought was generous. He didn't seem to think I was for real and I got the feeling that he believes I will eventually offer him more money for the binder. Sorry, I won't. I don't need the cards. I have them. 

Cards from the 1970's are not rare, they are not scarce, they are not hard to find. In fact, cards from the 1970's are plentiful. I am sitting on a mountain of them and just do not want any more. Please, please, do not bring me cards from the 1970's.

Needless to say, I did not purchase a whole lot of cards at the Gonzaga show which was really disappointing because I have been consistently purchasing great groups of cards from the 1960's and older at a regular clip at the Gonzaga show. I was really disappointed that better stuff did not show up at my tables.

On the selling front, my sales were pretty good considering the Packers-Vikings game began at noon. I arrived at the show a little earlier than usual with the game in mind. I observed that other dealers had the same idea and were there much earlier than normal.

I was busy as soon as I started setting up and did not have a chance to take any notes. Some sales I do remember is one customer purchased a large number of 1974 Topps baseball. Jason purchased some Goudeys. Dean purchased a pile of stuff. Gary somehow found some more 1955 Bowmans at my table. I desperately need to reload the Bowmans. I actually need to reload all of the binders. A few guys complained that the binders were empty.

It is a real battle for me to keep those binders loaded. I was actually in a really good place right before the National but since then, the binders have been depleted. Another issue I find that limits my ability to load more binders is that when I am working on the 1970's binders, where I have so many cards and so many to load into the binders, the job takes a painfully long time. I am currently on my third week of working on my 1975 Topps baseball binder. I work on it most every night and some on the weekends. It is just a very time-consuming process. Please, please, don't bring me any more cards from the 1970's and have some patience with the reloading of the binders. I eventually reload each binder but it takes some time. Complaining does not help me, I can't get them done any quicker.

As I stated in a previous blog, I try not to bring all of my binders out to each show so I can save them a little bit. I probably won't bring out any binders to the Orland show this Sunday, Sept. 22. I think I am just going to bring out display cases. My binders get hit especially hard at the Orland show. Thankfully, I am not setting up at any shows during the last weekend of the month. My binders need the break!

Like an old-time disc jockey, I do take special requests. Let me know if there is a certain binder you would like to see at the Orland show and I'll bring it out. I currently have a really nice inventory of cards for my display cases and should have some neat stuff at the Orland show. See you then, but please, please, don't bring me any cards from the 1970's!!
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We're Baaaaaack!!!

9/9/2019

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September 7, 2019, Salvation Army Community Center, Oak Creek, WI

Well, my fellow sports card addicts, the long wait is over, we are back at the Sal after taking July and August off. At the September 7th show, I sensed a feeling of relief and joy from both dealers and collectors alike. The show is back on the first Saturday of the month and I have even booked for 2020. We won’t be taking two consecutive months off next year but we will rest up in January and July.

The September show was tremendous. With 31 dealers and 56 tables! Man, what an amazing selection of cards and memorabilia! As you all know, I love the vintage and we had the best selection of vintage cards I have ever seen at a one-day show anywhere!!

I was very busy at my tables and found it tough to explore but I was able to live vicariously through my fellow vintage addicts who showed off their purchases. Charlie picked up a 1948 Leaf Warren Spahn. I love the ’48 Leafs and the Spahn is just a cool card. Several guys showed off 57-58 Topps basketball and ’61-62 Fleer basketball purchases. There were a ton of Mantles in the room. Guys were drooling at the ’52 Bowman which I think was on Mike Slinkman’s table. It seemed like Mike had nothing but Mantles!!

I sold a good amount of Goudeys, including my Hornsby. I also sold a bunch of stars from the 1970’s. There seemed to be a lot of interest in Nolan Ryan. I also sold several Pete Rose cards.

It was great to have dealer Mike Mahan back, who was battling health issues all year. Mike looks good and he picked up a ton of stuff while he was laid up. He had Old Judges and all sorts of other stuff from the 1800’s on his table. Mike reported having a monster day selling cards.

Then there were a bunch of new dealers like Mike Slinkman and his Mantles, Josh Brothers had a great display of both modern and vintage, my pal Bill Seamons set up for the first time and had boxes and boxes of singles, and new dealer Eric Unglaub had all sorts of sets for sale. Thanks guys for setting up and come back again soon!!

There were also a large number of modern dealers with all sorts of insert cards and autographs from the high-end to the dime box variety. Customer Marc Smiley reported that his 8 year-old daughter pulled a Mike Trout Autograph from one of the free packs I give away. See photo below.

I think the show had a great balance of old and new. One dealer commented that maybe there were too many dealers. I strongly disagree. I don’t believe there can ever be too many dealers. I find that the more dealers there are, the better the show. Customers do not like to see the same guys over and over, they want some new blood and my show provides new blood.

Also, as a dealer, I think it is a huge mistake to concern yourself with other dealers. I try to provide quality material and reasonable prices on my table and I am generally successful. My sales at this show were excellent, even with a large number of vintage dealers. Plus, I love to buy cards and I really enjoyed shopping later in the day with all these great vintage dealers. I picked up a stack of 1953 Topps from Larry Larsen. I learned that Tim Fritz had all that cool old basketball that people were showing me and I bought some for myself. I picked up a 1952 Topps Bob Feller from Reed Pentek. I purchased a 1957 Topps Ted Williams from Mike Slinkman. I purchased a pile of vintage singles from Bill Nest. Then I bought a stack of 1966 Topps commons from Nick C. I had so much fun. The more dealers, the more fun, in my book.

Dealer sales varied from monster days to very few sales. I think the guys with slower sales may have to reconsider their pricing. It seemed like everyone had great stuff and collectors will continue to show up with such an amazing inventory on display. It is your job as a dealer to cater to the collectors in the room and learn what they are interested in purchasing an learn what they are willing to spend. Don’t worry about your fellow dealers! It is this large selection of dealers that brings the people into the show!!

As dealer Tom Daniels and I were discussing at the show, you never know how your sales will go. My original plan for my display at this show was to put out 1960s and 1970’s baseball. Last month at Gonzaga, I had my pre-War and 1950’s cards out and sales were slow. However, I started getting emails before this show (you must communicate with your customers!) asking for Goudeys and Bowmans. So instead of focusing on the 1960’s and 1970’s, like I had planned, I put out all of my baseball from T206’s to 1980. I ended up selling cards from every era. As Tom said, you just never know.  
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We were in the gym again for this show and, wow, I think the show is just flat out special when we are in the gym. I think we should be able to set up in the gym for the rest of the year.

A big shout out to Mark Lewis and his wife who are instrumental in the success of the show. Mark is my contact at the Sal and goes out of his way to ensure that everything runs smoothly. I asked for 55 tables and he got me 55 tables. He had to order 30 of them from the Sal’s warehouse.

Mark’s wife, I am so sorry that I forgot this lovey ladies’ name, ran the concession stand. She worked the stand for hours and dished some amazing sloppy Joe to showgoers, never losing her smile. She is a volunteer and all the proceeds from the concession stand go to the Salvation Army and the great work they do. Please, please, purchase food and drinks at the show and help out an amazing organization that is so selfless in its help for those in need.
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The September show was phenomenal and I am so thankful to the Sal, all the dealers and all the collectors that have made this show a success. I hope everyone had as much fun as I did. I can’t wait for the next one on October 5th. In the meantime, I’ll see you at Gonzaga this Sunday, September 15. I know the Packers are playing at noon, so it should be an early day. I’m going to try and get there a little earlier than usual. Again, thank you for your support! You guys are the best!!
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