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Tony & Dave Truck to Ohio for Big Show

5/30/2018

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Ohio Sports Collectors Convention, Strongsville, Ohio, April 13 -15, 2018

Work responsibilities have kept me from traveling out of town for card shows these past two years. The only out-of-town show I regularly attend these days is the yearly Ohio Sports Collectors Convention held every April in Strongsville, Ohio. I flat out love this show. As you all know, I am addicted to vintage sports cards and this show is my Mecca because only vintage sports card dealers are allowed to set up. 

The April 2018 show was my second time as a dealer. My pal Dave McDonald and I were better prepared for the show this time around having one under out belts. Last year, we had issues renting a car. No car rental issues this year! We were on the road to Strongsville from the Chicago area around lunchtime on Thursday, April 12, 2018. It was a beautiful spring day! Blue sky and temperatures in the 70s.

Last year, I was having some issues with my diabetes and needed to stop fairly regularly. This year, new meds, no problems, was able to drive for hours without stopping. The drive seemed to fly by with Dave and I catching up. I hadn't seen Dave since the November Sun-Times show. 

After about five hours, we arrived at the Strongsville Holiday Inn, site for the show, with some daylight left and time to set up. Load in and set up were pretty simple. Dave and I each had a six-foot table for this show. Not a lot of space so not much time needed to set up. I put out four display cases. I had priced a bunch of new inventory for the show. Dave had picked up all sorts of new stuff as well. 

We had the pleasure of being set up next to Payne Sports again. This husband and wife team are absolute superstars. In my opinion, they had the best selection of cards at the show, from tobacco cards to vintage Topps high numbers, most any year. They are so friendly and easy to work with. I purchased some 1966 Topps highs for my set. Tim gave me a nice deal. Thanks Tim! I also watched Tim make some amazing purchases all weekend long. He has the golden touch.

Another family was set up on the other side of us and they could not have been nicer. All of the dealers in our little corner of the room were real friendly which made the weekend that much more pleasurable.

After set up on Thursday night, Dave and I went out to find some food in Strongsville. We settled on a Mexican restaurant. Dave forgot to bring his reading glasses and could not read the menu. I offered to read it to him but he had his mind already made up. It was an impressive menu. I settled on a shrimp dish that was oh, so good. Dave ordered tamales and bean dip. His tamales came covered in a brown sauce. The bean dip looked like soup. 

Back at the hotel, I thought I'd sleep well after the drive, set up, and dinner. I think I was a little too excited for the show to begin and did not sleep well. Morning came like a thud. We had hotel breakfast which was not nearly as good as last year.

​Once in the show, the morning was a little slow for me but active for Dave. I set out to explore the room. Large show staples were nearby like Uncle Dick, Art Smith, SGC, and Heritage Auctions. I was hoping to see the guy from last year that had some inexpensive oddball pre-War but unfortunately he wasn't there.
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Near the front of the room was a group of guys with all sorts of regional issues and potato chip cards. It was fun to check out their set ups. Mike, a local dealer, who was set up across from us last year had moved a bit to a nearby spot. It is always nice to see Mike, who is another friendly face and a regular reader of this blog.

Back at my table, Gary, a dealer who I believe is from Albany, New York, purchased my Johnny Unitas rookie. I know Gary was looking for a better deal but on the first day of the show, I could not bring myself to offer a large dealer discount for the best card on my table. 

Prior to the show, I thought I needed something extra to spur sales, so I decided to put out signs that I was offering 20 percent off my price. Gary took the 20 percent off on the Unitas. My discount definitely helped with sales. Quite a few guys stopped by because of the discount signs. Even though I had some long periods with no sales, overall my Friday sales were up from last year.

I was happy to see George and his lovely wife who drove in from Milwaukee based on my recommendation. George is working on all sorts of oddball sets and he was like a kid in a candy store filling up his want lists. He purchased a 1938 Our National Game complete pin set from Gary.

Friday was a long day. I went to the hotel room a few times to nap. For lunch, I ordered a most delicious burger from the hotel bar. When the show ended around 8 p.m., Dave and I met up with Mark Smith, Hockey Greg, Craig from Akron, and a few OBC guys. I am so bad with names. One of the OBC guys drove in from Boston. I think it was Greg who found this place called the B Spot which is a hip bar/restaurant.

I was impressed with the B Spot's menu which had some amazing milk shakes and all sorts of designer hamburgers. They also had an extensive beer menu. I watched my new friend from Boston get a milkshake. I've got lactose issues and can't drink them, wish I could. So I ordered a local craft beer.

Dave again forgot his reading glasses. I tried to convince him to allow me to read the menu to him but again he declined. I don't think Dave is a big fan of fancy hamburgers, he prefers a simple burger topped with ketchup. I, on the other hand, love creative food and ordered a burger topped with grilled onions, shrooms and avocados and a funky sauce. Oh my, this was an extremely delicious burger. Dave was not impressed.

As much as I love card shows and vintage cards, the best part of traveling to shows is going out to dinner with a great group of guys. I really enjoyed laughing and swapping show stories with these guys.

Back at the hotel, I couldn't sleep again. Some crazy lady across the hall was screaming at her family. Dave snores. So do I. Between the screaming, Dave's snoring, my snoring, it was tough to get some meaningful sleep.

Thud! Morning. Again another crappy breakfast at the hotel supplemented with a ton of coffee. The real nice weather we had Thursday and Friday had gone away. It was cold and rainy out. Further north, the weatherman reported snow. I think the weather kept away some customers that came last year from Michigan and Pennsylvania. North of Cleveland there were large snow storms. In the Cleveland area, we had cold rain.

My sales were a little slower on Saturday than on Friday. Thus, I walked the room. One dealer had some oddball old White Sox schedules. I bought them all. I purchased some T205s from another dealer who gave me a nice deal. The guy who had the Red Man's last year was back and I bought more of those. Hockey Greg had a 1979-80 Topps hockey set at a reasonable price. I regret not pulling the trigger.

Dave had an excellent day again. One customer sat at Dave's table all day and spent a pretty penny. With my sales slow, I chose to hang out with Mark and Greg at their tables in the afternoon. At one point, Dave came over, looking a little panicky and asked me to come back to our tables to help him. He had a customer pulling out big stacks of cards. Dave asked me to add them up.

As I was adding up the cards, which started to total a few thousand dollars, the customer asked Dave if he could pay him via PayPal. Dave said yes. Then the customer started to explain that he currently did not have any funds in his PayPal and account and needed to deposit some funds but can't do it until he gets home to Maryland the next day. He wanted to take the cards home and pay Dave at a later date through PayPal. Dave said okay. I was concerned but continued to add up the cards.

I did not like this situation at all so I stopped adding up the cards and offered the customer the use of my iPhone to pay Dave now with PayPal. Again he stated he had no money in his PayPal account. Well, I know full well that you can use a credit card via PayPal which I suggested. The customer said no and added that he did not want Dave to incur credit card fees. Well, this is PayPal, so there are no credit card fees and now I know this guy is a fraud.

I then showed Dave the numbers on my calculator and asked him if he really wanted to go through with this deal. I could see I agitated the customer but did not care. The customer claimed all the dealers in the room knew him and we should trust him. I didn't buy it and learned later that none of dealers knew this guy.

A discussion ensued where the guy kept harping on his honesty. I explained to Dave that this guy is pulling a lot of cards that have added up to a high amount of dollars and that neither of us know this guy. I suggested to Dave that he should not allow this guy to walk out with several thousand dollars worth of cards without receiving a penny.

I really started to get aggravated with this whole situation. I have zero tolerance for thieves. So, I was thinking this guy is a real scumbag. Dave is much nicer than me. He started to negotiate a new deal. He told the guy that he will place the cards, a large stack, to the side and ship them to him in Maryland once he received the PayPal. The guy argued that Dave should let him leave with the cards. Thankfully, Dave refused but said he'll ship them. The guy gave me his Maryland driver's license and asked me to take a photo, which I did. Dave still did not agree to give him the cards. The guy eventually left talking out of his behind about how he was going to PayPal the money tomorrow. I did not buy it.

Dave and I argued about the veracity of the guy's statements after he left. Dave was confident the guy was going to send him PayPal and kept the large stack of cards to the side for the rest of the show. I argued that he will never see a dime from this guy and should put the cards back in his case so he could potentially sell them to a legitimate customer. He did not agree with me so we made a bet that if the guy does pay, I owe Dave lunch and if the guy does not pay, Dave owes me lunch. It really bothered me that he kept all those cards out of his case for the rest of the show. Though, he had an excellent show and his overall sales were very, very good. So, perhaps, he did not need to put the cards out. I, on the other hand, would not hold several thousand dollars worth of cards for a guy I did not know nor did I trust.

While I disagreed with Dave and felt my input kept him from getting scammed, overall I know full well that Dave is a tremendous vintage sports card dealer. We have been friends for years and have set up together at many, many shows. When it comes to 1953 Topps baseball, nobody knows them better than Dave. He always has tremendous product in his display cases and I know of few dealers whose sales can compare to Dave's. My sales certainly do not come close. Dave is a superstar so it is hard for me to be critical of him.

However, as I write up this blog, it is now about two months after the show occurred and I have not heard from Dave. I am assuming the guy never sent PayPal. Dave, I am waiting for my lunch!! I think you should take me to Russell's BBQ!!

After Saturday's show ended, Dave and I went out to explore Strongsville. We were disappointed to find that Goldie's, a restaurant we enjoyed last year, was shuttered. We ended up at a chain Irish pub type place at the mall. We both had fish and chips which were pretty good.

Another tough night sleeping. I think next year, I'll bring something along to help me sleep. Thud! Morning! Crappy breakfast again. I could not get out of bed and Dave went down without me. When I finally rolled into the hotel restaurant, I spotted Dave dining with one of his good customers who flew in from California. I told our friend the story about the guy from Maryland. He agreed with me and did not think Dave would get his PayPal.

Sunday sales slowed down for Dave. My day started out good but died around noon. I had one guy come to my table and show me a handful of 1933 Goudeys that he said are part of a cigar box of Goudeys he inherited from his father. I drooled and offer him $500 for the handful of cards. He told me he was just gauging their value and was not ready to sell them. I told him to shop the cards around and that my offer would stay open. I was bummed that he never came back.  

It was mostly crickets in the afternoon on Sunday. The show promoter Paul Fusco does not like dealers to leave early. So we stuck it out. Again, I think the severe snow storms up north kept the regular crowd away. Earlier that morning, my friend Mike Johnson texted me from Aurora, Illinois, thinking I was driving up to Milwaukee for the Gonzaga show. He wanted to know my thoughts on the roads because of the weather. I texted him back to let him know I was in Cleveland and we just were having rain. Apparently, Milwaukee got hit hard with snow.

Back in Strongsville, I felt overall, the crowd was down from last year, though my sales were up. I also had a lot of fun and am already looking forward to next year. Dave and I were concerned about the weather driving home but it turned out to be okay. We had some rain but no snow. Unfortunately, we had to stop a bunch because my diabetes meds were upsetting my stomach. So it took us a little longer to get home but not too bad.
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Back home, I am happy to report that I will be set up at the June and July Orland Park shows. I have been an infrequent dealer at Orland Park because the show conflicts with Gonzaga. I am looking forward to the June 24th Orland show. Also, my next Four Points Sheraton show is July 7th. Don't forget to come see me at the June 10th Gonzaga show!!
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Monster Show at the Four Points

5/29/2018

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Buying, selling, collecting sports memorabilia is a tremendous hobby that has brought me years of joy. Unfortunately, dealing with management at the Four Points Sheraton in Milwaukee has put a damper on that joy. Now that the June 2nd show is back on, I am hopeful there will be no more issues with the hotel and I can move on and get back to the hobby I love so much.

While I have been reporting on my issues with the hotel, I have failed to discuss the great shows that have occurred there despite management's efforts to the contrary. Below is a recap of the April 7th Four Points Sheraton show. 

Four Points Sheraton, Milwaukee, April 7, 2018

Just days before the show, I realized I over-booked the room and tried to bump up to a larger room. The hotel manager told me all the larger rooms were already booked. I then asked to add a second room which worked. So I had 26 tables in the Rembrandt Room and 8 tables in the next door Monet Room. Fifteen dealers total, which is a lot for me. My normal dealer count is eight to 10.

I have observed over time that when there is increased dealer interest in a particular show there is always increased customer interest. I had tremendous customer attendance at this show all day long. I placed myself in the smaller Monet Room and I could hear the larger crowd in the Rembrandt Room. Another indicator for the large crowd are my giveaways. I normally give away three boxes of cards (at two packs for each customer). At this show, I gave away seven boxes of cards! 

I almost blew the giveaway because I forgot to load the boxes of cards into my car. I was beside myself in the morning when I realized I forgot the boxes of cards. My wife's car is not running so she couldn't bring them to me. I then thought of Big Tim who lives nearby and normally attends the show. I gave him a call and he just happened to be near my house on his way to the show. He was kind enough to stop at my house and pick up the boxes of cards. Thank you Tim!!!! Crisis averted. Note to self, buy a lot more boxes of cards for future shows!

The show opens at 9 a.m. but customers started to trickle in at 8 a.m. I had trouble setting up because I had to settle in all the dealers and then had early customers. I did not finish setting up until 9:45 a.m. The worst part was that I missed the hotel breakfast buffet. They had shut it down before 10 a.m. I thought it was open until 10:30 a.m.

I was busy most of the day. While the Monet Room did not have the same buzz as the Rembrandt Room, I still had a steady flow of customers all day long. A regular customer brought in an unopened 1966 Topps Rack Pack to show me, pictured below. It was so cool! I have never seen one before. 

My sales on this day were excellent. I was steadily busy most of the day. The only drawback was I did not have the time I wanted to check out all the new dealers in the Rembrandt Room. It was not until noon that I was able to spend a little time in the other room. I was blown away by new dealer Harry Lambrecht's tables. He had some amazing vintage cards! He gave me a nice deal on a stack of 1976-77 Topps Basketball Cards. I also picked up a 1953 Topps Yogi Berra from Jerry. From new dealer Jeff Talamantez, I picked up a 1959 Topps Mickey Mantle.

Several customers tried to sell me cards but their prices were too high. One guy was a little ridiculous, asking $350 for a raw Pete Maravich Rookie. I mean the card was nice but if you are going to ask for a graded price, you have to get the card graded. There is no guarantee the card would be an 8 or a 9. In addition, I am a dealer, I only buy cards that I can make some money on. I can't make any money at $350 for the Maravich. Why not get it graded and sell it online?

Another customer was just a little too high on some vintage football cards. He offered them to me at the same price I would sell them for. Again, as a dealer, I only pull the trigger if there is potential profit down the road. He had both the Beckett and SMR guides printed, circled and highlighted -- which is great for a collector, but a dealer, I can't pay these prices and expect a profit. I recommend that everyone get their feet wet selling cards either on eBay or at a show. This sort of practical experience will create a better picture on pricing for selling cards to dealers.

It is starting to seem like no one is a straight collector anymore. Most everybody both buys and sells cards. Please consider getting a table at my show. For just $25 for an eight-foot table, you will have a lot of space to display your wares and very little overhead. Anyone can be a sports card dealer and it is a lot of fun setting up.

I had fun at the April 7th Four Points Sheraton show. It was fun having so many dealers set up at my show and it was doubly fun having such a large crowd. A huge thank you to everyone who attended the show!

A reminder is that the Four Points Show is on for the rest of the year, on the first Saturday of every month. The next show is June 2nd and will be held in the hotel's restaurant. I'm on the hunt for a new location for 2019. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Obviously, I am looking for a room where the rent won't break the bank.
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Four Points Sheraton Milwaukee Sports Card Show is Back On!

5/6/2018

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After a three-week battle, management agreed to allow the June 2nd show at the Four Points Sheraton, 5311 S. Howell, in Milwaukee, to go on as originally planned.

​Here's a run down of what has occurred these past three weeks: this all started when manager Stefanie Wilcott called me and said the June 2nd show is cancelled because another group needs the room. I responded that I contracted for that room in November of 2017 and I am a lawyer and will file a lawsuit for breach of contract. Ms. Wilcott was unfazed. She offered to move the show to the Best Western which is also owned by the Sheraton. I responded that I have been promoting the show as occurring on June 2 at the Four Points Sheraton. I spent money on advertising and have listed it all over the internet and have given out hundreds of flyers. I said I cannot move the show to the Best Western because people are going to show up at the Sheraton, not the Best Western.

​She again said I cannot hold the show at the Sheraton. I suggested we move the show into the restaurant at the Sheraton. She said they will not move the show into the restaurant because they need to serve breakfast. Now I have been at that hotel every month for the last four years and have never observed more than five people in that restaurant and informed Ms. Wilcott of my observation. She again said the restaurant is not available. She suggested we move the show into the bar. No go. In November, we set my June show in the Mitchell room and I was planning on 34 8-foot tables. Well, you can fit maybe 10 tables in the bar. I told her the bar would not work. She suggested we could put additional tables in a back hallway. I responded that I wanted the Mitchell Room as originally contracted back in November. She said no.

​Well, now I was pissed off. I have been running shows at the hotel for four years. When it was under the Clarion management, I never had a problem. These Sheraton people, the new owners, have been nothing but a problem.

​So after litigating another case in court all day. I went home and drafted a breach of contract complaint that I was going to file in the Lake County, Illinois, circuit court. I sent Ms. Wilcott a copy of my draft complaint. She was unfazed. No response.

​A few days later, another manager calls, leaves a message stating he wants to chat about alternatives for my June 2nd show. I called back, got his voicemail, left a message stating there is nothing to chat about, I want my show to go on in the Mitchell Room as is written in our contract. He sent an email asking me to call. I did not respond to the email because I did not believe he would offer a viable alternative.

​I did not hear from the hotel again. So I started posting on Facebook and various sports collectible websites that the May 5 show will be my last at the Four Points Sheraton, fully believing this was the last show.

​On May 4, I drafted a press release, outlining the above and warning others to avoid the Four Points Sheraton. On the morning of May 5, as I am setting up the room at the Sheraton for the show, I placed a stack of my press releases in the entry way to the room. Ms. Wilcott swiped my press releases. She asked to discuss the situation. I met with her and another manager in a conference room. She said I cannot have my press releases in the room. I told her I will add that as another count to my lawsuit, knowing she cannot legally come into my room and take anything out of there. We argue. Eventually, she tells me she has a solution and suggests I move the show into the restaurant on June 2nd -- which is not HER solution, this was MY solution I suggested three weeks ago. She says she just has to confirm with higher management that the restaurant is available.

​An hour or so goes by, she comes back, we go back to the conference room with the other manager, who was silent the whole time. She gets the regional manager on speaker phone. He started in on me with all sorts of BS, trying to save face and claim they never cancelled my show. I told him he is going to need to make that statement under oath in a court of law. 

​He then tells me we can move the show into the restaurant. I agree. Problem solved... or so I thought. An hour or so later, Ms. Wilcott brings me a new contract which basically states that I am liable for anything and everything that could go wrong in the hotel on the day of my shows, including the parking lot, and that the hotel has the authority to cancel my show at any time. I did not sign the new contract and have not spoken to Ms. Wilcott since.

​At this point, I believe the show is back on. We will be in the restaurant on June 2nd as I await for Ms. Wilcott to put up new obstacles. There is something very, very wrong with these folks. I don't understand how the show could go so smoothly for three years with the old management and now have nothing but problems with this new group. Obviously, they don't want my show at the hotel. My guess is that I don't spend enough money with them. They want events that will spend tens of thousands of dollars. I get that but at the same time, as I've said, I've been at that hotel every month for nearly four years and rarely has there been another event running in any of the other five banquet rooms at the same time as my sports card show. I'm the only thing happening at that hotel, why treat me so poorly?

​I've gotten the message loud and clear -- I need to move the show to a new venue. I have already started the search for a new venue. In the meantime, we will still be at the Four Points Sheraton on the first Saturday of every month through December of 2018. So come on out! It is still an excellent show despite the hotel's efforts to the contrary. The continued success of the show will piss off the folks at the Four Points Sheraton. Come on out June 2nd and piss these people off!!
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Last Show slated for Saturday, May 5, 2018, due to the Four Points Sheraton Summarily Cancelling June 2nd Show

5/1/2018

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To my shock, awe and surprise, the management of the Four Points Sheraton Milwaukee, 5311 S. Howell, in Milwaukee, cancelled my June 2, 2018, card show. Their reasoning was that another group needed the space. I plead my case on deaf ears, arguing that I booked the room back in November and have been promoting the show since then. They did not care. They offered to move me to another hotel or place the show in the tiny bar space.

I have drafted a breach of contract lawsuit and will be litigating the issue in court. We had an agreement, they cannot summarily cancel my event.

Let this be a warning to anyone who has an event scheduled at the Four Points Sheraton, or is planning to schedule an event there or is planning to attend an event there -- this hotel may cancel any event at any time no matter if you have a contract to reserve space. Something is not right with these people. They lack honesty, decency and any semblance of professionalism. 

​As a result, I will not hold any more card shows at the Four Points Sheraton, effectively ending my run at the hotel. I started back in September of 2014, when the hotel was under different ownership/management. I had the pleasure of working with Jeff Weaver and Betsy Ignasiak of the then Clarion Hotel. Jeff and Betsy were incredibly supportive of my show, even securing autograph guests such as Dave Robinson and Gilbert Brown. Jeff and Betsy would never cancel my show out of the blue, unlike the new management of the Four Points Sheraton. Jeff and Betsy were professionals while management at the Four Points Sheraton cannot understand the term. 

Unfortunately, the Clarion was sold to the Sheraton last year and Jeff and Betsy, true superstars, were fired and replaced by a group that does not have the ability to manage a a child's lemonade stand, let alone a large hotel.

I have spent a great deal of time and money promoting the show. It is tragic that it is ending at the hands of a group that are nothing more than despots.

So the last show at the Four Points Sheraton is Saturday, May 5, 2018. I will NOT host any more shows at the Four Points Sheraton, mainly because they cancelled the June 2nd show without my authority and have not issued a  guarantee that they will allow any future shows to occur.

The support for the show over the years has been tremendous from both customers and dealers. I have had dealers drive in from Indiana, Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota. Just about every show has been filled with customers. I cannot say how much I appreciate the support. 

As you may know, I operate a very busy law firm in the Chicago area and do not have the time to seek out a new venue. So for the present time, I will not hold any shows anywhere. However, I will still be a regular vendor at the monthly Gonzaga show in West Allis and the Civic Center show in Orland Park, Illinois. I just don't have time to do any more than these two shows right now.

Please come on out Saturday for my last show at the Four Points Sheraton. We had a good run, it is too bad the Sheraton management is rotten to the core. 
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    Tony Gordon

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